Sanctimommy: The baby death edition
So I came across this gem today. I didn't have money to offer, but I could offer my condolence. I could take a few minutes and watch the video, see how much this woman loved her baby. I can't imagine burying a child. Although, with all the crap I see every day, I can say this doesn't surprise me. This is Sanctimommy at it's most disturbing and disgusting. I made her name black, like her heart.
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You can post it with my name. I'm proud to stand for the protection of genital integrity at all costs! The tender sensibilities of mothers are less important than the lives of their precious sons. We must stop mutilating little boys. So very many die from this horribly unnecessary surgery!!!
ReplyDeleteWhat a bitch!
ReplyDeleteFaith...what the F is wrong with you????
ReplyDeleteHey, poe: you're doing it wrong.
ReplyDeleteC-U-Next Tuesday, seriously
ReplyDeleteI for one would like to see a link to any record that shows of baby boys dying as a result of circumcision.
ReplyDeleteActually, I think the "tender sensitivities" of mothers who are afraid of causing their children a moment of pain are responsible for the mostly fictional backlash against vaccination. I think about my parents' generation, and how every kid new a kid who died from the measles or scarlet fever or the mumps or even the chicken pox (like my uncle), because kids died from those diseases ALL THE TIME. I would rather have my kid be angry for a minute because of a shot and maybe be grouchy with a fever for a night than die from a totally preventable disease.
That said, attacking a grieving mother for possibly having circumcised her dead son is utterly inhumane. If the idea is to promote humane-ness and consideration by keeping boys intact, she completely defeated her own point by being a turd of a human being in the process. You don't take lessons from human monsters on how to be a good person.
What's poe?
ReplyDeleteMale genital mutilation kills 100 boys a year! http://www.icgi.org/2010/04/infant-circumcision-causes-100-deaths-each-year-in-us/ I was concerned because so many perverts insist on mutilating their sons in spite of heart problems and they often die as a result. And it's so sad. Unnecessary surgeries are bad enough, but unnecessary genital surgeries on babies who are born perfect is just horrible!
I'm supposed to take someone who calls themselves Coocoocachoo seriously?
ReplyDeleteAnd Faith, you're lucky I am a Christian.
I'm extremely skeptical of any article published by a journal for a specific purpose that supports that purpose. Like citing an article in the International Coalition for Genital Integrity on its idea of what "circumcision related death" is.
ReplyDeleteI'll also point out that the author of that "study" is the director of that very journal.
That is to say, he published his own article on dubious scientific principles in his own journal, under the guise of professionalism.
Which isn't science. It's how you lie. Just like the doctor who lied about the connection between autism and vaccines- he was paid to write that by anti-vaccine groups. Only this is worse, because this guy is paying HIMSELF to twist science to serve his own aims.
...sorry Lindsay. I've been doing a lot of research on this topic for an upcoming End Of The Month Controversy post. i just get really irritated when people invent science to dismiss scientifically derived and well accepted information.
ReplyDeleteIt's such a horror to see the hideous behavior people have in the name of good work. I'm sure the people who broke people on the rack had the best intentions too. A rather severe comparison, but I want to make a point.
ReplyDeleteYikes lindsay I'm not talking about you!
ReplyDeleteFaith: You are a poe. A person who writes a parody of a Fundamentalist that is mistaken for the real thing. At least I hope that's what you're trying to be, but you're doing it wrong. If that's not what you're doing, you are a twit.
ReplyDeleteSorry Coocoocachoo!
ReplyDeleteBecoming Supermommy, I recently looked at that study. The author is a factory worker who basically took the numbers and said this many more boys die than girls a year, so they must all be circ related deaths.
ReplyDeleteWhat a horrible, unfeeling woman. A mother loses her child, but this woman takes it as a chance not to console her, as any other normal woman would, but to bring an unrelated topic into the conversation to serve her own purposes.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, but who ever this woman is, she needs help to see just how unfeeling she is in regards to human emotions. Because no one I have ever met/seen has ignored a womans loss and grief to promote their own agenda on a completely different topic. Narcissistic bitch!
Faith, this post and this baby death had nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with circumcision. The fact that you would view everything you read through this lens is disturbing, but what reaches the level of disgust for me and others on this thread is that you would actually SAY something like this to a grieving mother. Who has nothing to do with your little private war. And is fighting a war of her own right now, trying to stay on top of her overwhelming grief.
ReplyDeleteLike you, I'm also anti-circumcision. Unlike you, I seem to still have a grasp on reality and have some perspective on when is the right time and place to make a circumcision argument, and when it just makes you look like an asshat.
Faith doesn't care that child didn't die from circumcision. All she cares about is being a loud mouth, lying, self righteous troll. She's probably a "friend" on several facebook lists or groups as someone else and just uses it to be a double agent.
ReplyDeleteI think it may be time to clean house and see who people really are.
Am not good with comforting words. Things like death is very hard to comfort especially kid
ReplyDeleteAww, poor baby. Condolence for the family.
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I am shocked at Faith's decision to post this information in the particular place and time that she did. The insensitivity to the grieving mother, and her desire to put her own passion/interest above that, is unnerving. I hope that you have the opportunity to sit back and reflect on what you did, Faith. You can't take it back, and to some extent to beat yourself up over it is pointless, but you MUST try to see what you did and the absolute callousness that comes across. First, do you really think that this mother is going to take your feedback about circumcision for a future baby (??!! sorry I am just having a moment of shock about how F***ED up this is)... seriously when you chose this timing to "tell" her about it? Second, this is not your space to talk. You know the whole taking turns to talk? Well, when someone's baby dies, that is not the time to ask them if they had a circumcision and tell them your views about it. It is your time to listen. There will be plenty of other people and situations where you can share your views. [By the way, I hope that you are RN or MD educated or else at least have a Bachelor's Degree in Science - otherwise your credibility about the issue itself is questionable, as you do actually do learn something in school in those classes, which you obviously missed if you have no said education.] Third, there is nearly a blaming tone in your voice. I remember something I read by a psychologist I respect. "To give advice is to play God." That doesn't mean that we shouldn't give advice, not at all...but that we should consider seriously before we do so. It is a great responsibility.
ReplyDeleteMy chest feels tight and I feel such a sense of anguish over what you said to this poor mother. My hope is that you can grow from this experience, learn what you did wrong, forgive yourself, and go on to do better and good things with your life.
Faith, re: "perverts insist on mutilating their sons in spite of heart problems and they often die as a result." Since circumcision is a cultural issue, I am not sure why you are labeling all parents who do this as "perverts." The general meaning of that word in this context is "A person whose sexual behavior is regarded as abnormal and unacceptable." Are you saying that both the baby's mother and father are doing the circumcision for personal sexual reasons? Please consider the meaning of your words. You can certainly say that circumcision is perverted in the sense that it is unnatural, not what is intended. But how are the parents perverts?
ReplyDeleteAnyhow, you strike me as someone who takes a lot of pride in saying exactly what you believe, and continuing to do so in the face of opposition. These are great strengths. In the light of your behavior both on facebook page and in defending yourself, however, you seem oblivious to how insensitive you were to the mother whose baby died. I am pretty sure that this makes you LESS effective in delivering your message, not more so. You also seem to lack the humility of recognizing that you probably don't know everything...you obviously know a lot about a lot of things, but surely you see yourself as always learning and not quite having arrived knowing everything?